Farming? Get A License!


It seems like the Feds are simply bent on destroying the ability of Americans to feed themselves. Now they want farmers to get a CDL and follow all regs for over the road truck driving in order to be able to deliver their products (like grain, cattle, produce, etc) to “collection centers”……The sad thing is that there is SCOTUS precedent for such ridiculous regs under Wickard vs. Filbern.

I am posting the following article for your information. I am disinclined to further encourage anyone to bang their head into a brick wall by trying to convince the Federal Agencies that they need to re-think anything. If you want to write, go ahead. If not, I won’t hold it against you!


buy this photoJAMES WOODCOCK/Gazette Staff

Robert Ott, from Reed Point, leads a horse to sale from his 18-foot-long trailer at Billings Livestock Commission on Friday afternoon. Proposed regulations could require farmers and ranchers to get commercial driver’s licenses.

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Tractors lumbering down country roads are as common as deer in rural Montana , but the federal government wants to place new driving regulations on farmers and ranchers.

“It’s a huge deal for us,” said John Youngberg of the Montana Farm Bureau. After years of allowing state governments to waive commercial driver’s license requirements for farmers hauling crops or driving farm equipment on public roads, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration is poised to do away with the exceptions.

Regulators are suggesting that all wheat shipments be considered interstate, even when farmers making short hauls to local grain elevators aren’t crossing state lines. The change would make commercial driver’s licenses — and all the log books and medical requirements that go with them — a necessity for farmers. Some might not qualify.

The licenses would also be required of farmers driving farm equipment down public roads. Farmers hauling grain for a neighbor or landlord would be considered commercial drivers hauling for someone else.

Ranchers hauling livestock in trailers as small as 16 feet would also be subject to the new rules.

But before finalizing the proposed changes, FMCSA is accepting public comment. It originally allowed 30 days for public input last May. Then 18 U.S. senators prodded by farm groups asked that the public be given more time. Comments are now being taken until Aug. 1.

In a cautionary letter, Rep. Dennny Rehberg, R-Mont., told FMCSA Administrator Anne Ferro to drop the regulations.

“Under your proposal, tractors, combines and pickup trucks hauling trailers would be regulated as commercial vehicles,” Rehberg wrote. “Producers who operate these vehicles would be required to obtain commercial driver’s licenses, medical cards and log their hours as if they were long-haul truck drivers.”

Traditionally, farmers driving farm machinery have been exempt from commercial driver’s licenses, as have farmers hauling wheat, provided they didn’t cross state lines and traveled no farther than 150 air miles to the elevator.

“When you haul a commodity 150 miles, it just doesn’t make sense to have a commercial driver’s license,” Youngberg said.

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration says it wants to make sure federal safety regulations are being carried out uniformly across the nation. According to FMCSA, some states have been asking the administration to clarify rules on grain trucking, farm equipment and trucking for someone else. The reasons behind those questions are numerous.

Dana Peterson, National Association of Wheat Growers executive officer, said farm equipment on public roads has become an issue in urban areas, while the other two trucking issues have been sticking points with FMCSA.

“That’s been the interpretation of the agency for several years now,” Peterson said of the interstate rule for grain. “But it hasn’t been interpreted that way in all the states.”

FMCSA argues that because grain will ultimately be shipped out of state, it should be regulated as an interstate product at every transportation step. Treated as a product destined to cross state lines, grain becomes federally regulated under the commerce clause of the U.S. Constitution.

If a farmer’s trip to the local elevator is viewed as an intrastate transaction, then public safety becomes the main issue and the state has final say. Officials with the Montana Department of Transportation and Montana Department of Agriculture confirmed last week that they have not responded to federal requests for public comment about the proposed changes.

The argument that grain ultimately leaves the state seems to have Montana in mind. Roughly 80 percent of Montana wheat is shipped to other countries, said Lola Raska, of the Montana Grain Growers Association. However, once farmers unload their trucks at the local elevator and collect payment, their end of the business transaction is over.

In Montana , the conflicts between federal and state handling of farm freight have been minimal. That hasn’t been the case in states where commodities cross state lines more often.

In Oregon , farmers along the Columbia River often raise crops on the Washington side of the river as well. Farmers there have similar business arrangements in Idaho , said Shawn Cleave, government affairs specialist with the Oregon Farm Bureau. Crossing the state line has required farmers there to get commercial licenses, or at least that’s what the Oregon Farm Bureau has encouraged them to do.

The bigger issue in the federal proposal is whether commercial driver’s licenses are required for farmers in crop-sharing agreements involving leased farmland where everyone has a stake in the crop’s sale.

Oregon ‘s farmers are getting older. Their average age is 60, just slightly older than Montana ‘s average farmer. As those farmers get older, it becomes more likely that they’ll partner with younger farmers to get crops on their land. Commercial driver’s licenses are likely to be a must for the younger farmers in the partnership, Cleave said.

Contact Tom Lutey at or 657-1288

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4 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Frank S
    Jul 28, 2011 @ 11:19:36

    Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration…

    Another Fed agency designed to cripple the average American farmer! These teat sucking scumbags need to be disbanded. Resist this Montana Resist this!


  2. Ashley Johnson
    Jul 29, 2011 @ 10:56:53

    Once again, our greed driven government is seeing just how much more life they can squeeze out of the little people. We pay for all your finery and high on the hog living and you never seem to do a damn thing to benefit us, the least you pig headed pampered jerks can do is STOP SCREWING US EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND.


  3. Julie Johnson
    Aug 19, 2011 @ 17:24:39

    Each and every state in the US needs to refuse to send money to the Federal Govt., we need to defund 80% of the Federal (& at least 50% of the State gov’ts),
    and take care of our communities ourselves!!! These leeches need us, WE DON’T
    NEED THEM!!! Juries across the land should set aside any unconstitutional verdicts, (aka Jury Nullification), to prune drastically the thicket of beaurocratic tyranny! No money, the lawyers lose interest!!


  4. Ed E
    Sep 28, 2011 @ 03:47:24

    Thank god ther are still some real people left in this country. I was searching for some help with trucking issues and stumbled into this site. I have an eight mile coal run that goes through 3 DOT checks. Thats right I said in an eight mile trip I am subjected to three DOT stops. Now they aren’t always there and don’t pull you in every time but is this how we throw away the wealth of this once great nation. We indebted our grandchildren to constantly harass us?


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